The Bible and Astrology
The question I have is for John or anyone who is familiar with the bible and it's passages that could be related to astrology.
The other day I was thinking about a series of videos I saw on YouTube, that have since been removed, about the bible and it's relationship to astrology hosted by a man named Jordan Maxwell. He's sort of a conspiracy theorist, but he pointed out parts of scripture from both the old and new testament that could be interpreted as relating to astrology.
One example he gave was from the New Testament in the book of Luke. The disciples ask Jesus about preparing for the passover and the betrayal of Jesus. He aswered them:
When you go into town, a man carrying a pitcher of water will enter the house, follow him in.
According to Maxwell, this refers to the age of Aquarious. Jesus was saying he will return in the age of Aquarious.
Thoughts?
When you go into town, a man carrying a pitcher of water will enter the house, follow him in.
According to Maxwell, this refers to the age of Aquarious. Jesus was saying he will return in the age of Aquarious.
This Maxwell sounds like a nutjob to me. Any nutjob can pull a statement out of context and try to force it into something else.
I think you may be using a little of a strawman here. I still think there may still be hints of astrology in the Bible, in both Old and New Testaments. In the transfiguration verses, Messiah's face, supposedly, "shines like the sun". Why the use of the word "sun". I do not personally find it difficult to believe that mankind, long ago, worshipped the "sun" (at least in an indirect way). Putting symbolism and metaphors to the side, if this man's face actually did shine exactly like the sun, something around him should have melted. Of course, all of us know today that our actual physical sun is NOT eternal, and it too, will one day "die". In my mind, the writer here also believed our physical sun was probably "eternal", so to speak. Of course, we understand our sun at lot better than people did some 2,000 year ago! While our physical sun is pictured in many drawings of the alledged "signs of the zodiac", some of this specific subject may not make a lot of sense to me, either. I mildly agree with you that there may be no real punchline, especially in reference to the astrological "timelines" that Mr. Maxwell points out. I also find that the christian apologetics surrounding this man to be very weak. Despite this, there are still many other hidden "signs" in the world, and Mr. Maxwell does a good job presenting some of them in his research, and at his website.
Let me also say this. I do not agree with all that Mr. Jordan Maxwell says and a lot of his discussions border on the controversial, but I do not believe that Mr. Maxwell is a nutjob.
Perhaps you should critique his website, as well as his other writings before you make any quick conclusions. I have learned many things from Jordan Maxwell.
May God's gift of reason light our way!
"I think you may be using a little of a strawman here."
Uh, no, I most certainly did not. I was responding to a specific quote, which you evidently ignored, since you proceded to present an argument that had nothing to do with my point.
"I still think there may still be hints of astrology in the Bible, in both Old and New Testaments."
I didn't say that there weren't. I was responding to the specific verse quoted in my previous post: "When you go into town, a man carrying a pitcher of water will enter the house, follow him in." That comes from Luke 22:10. Read it in context. It seems to me that twisting this specific verse into an astrological comment is something that a nutjob would do.
"In the transfiguration verses, Messiah's face, supposedly, "shines like the sun". Why the use of the word "sun"."
And what does this have to do with what I was responding to?
I won't go on any further about that. I think you can see by now that you completely misunderstood my initial point.
"Let me also say this. I do not agree with all that Mr. Jordan Maxwell
says and a lot of his discussions border on the controversial, but I do
not believe that Mr. Maxwell is a nutjob."
I don't know, and I honestly don't care, as I don't even know who this guy is. If he did claim, thouh, as the orinigal poster said, that Luke 22:10 is an astrological statement, then at least with regards to that specific point he is suggesting something completely different from the natural meaning of the text (which is a nutjob sort of thing to do).
That's all I was getting at.
Your point is noted, but I also wanted to make a point about astrology or, as Mr. Maxwell also calls it, "astrotheology", to the forum, in general. Secondly, if you don't care, that is your business. Others here may have other views about Jordan Maxwell. Yes, I agree with you that the meaning of Luke 22:10 is somewhat of a stretch, as Maxwell attempts to interpret the verse as a timeline, or bible code!
The other points I wanted to make were not necessarily directed to you, my friend, but, they were also directed to members of the forum to spur or expand discussion of the study of astrotheology, in general. In fact, a short video which depicts some of the phraseology of Mr. Maxwell can be found on youtube. One brief 9 minnute video can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPUH4-mCpX0
May God's gift of reason light our way!
Jesus also had 12 deciples. There are 12 signs in the zodiac. Jesus is often symbolized as a fish--pisces? Mary was a virgin---Virgo?
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